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mx5-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 456

Today's Topics:
	 Rear towhooks
	 WLR to Duxford
	 Re: Wind blocker/Rollbar
	 RE: Rear towhooks
	 NMC: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
	 Zymol
	 Mazda Labour Charges
	 Stereo
	 Whats the point(s)?
	 Fw: Soapbox - Labour charges at Mazda Garages
	 Re: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
	 Re: Mazda Labour Charges
	 RE: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
	 Kicker 6.5 freeair install pics
	 Clarion r/cassette
	 Re: Mazda Labour Charges
	 RE: Speakers
	 RE: Speakers

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Date: 23 Jun 1999 08:49:30 +0000
From: "MIKE BONHAM" <mike.bonham@sandvik.com> (Tel +44 01203 476203)
To: mx5@chaos.org.uk
Subject: Rear towhooks
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Hi all

My rear towhooks are annoying me (I long ago ditched the front ones) but looking at the bracket
they're on they seem to not be a simple 'add on' as in the fronts but appear to hold the rear
of the car together in some way.

Has anyone removed them permanently or do I just  cut the protruding hook bits off leaving the
bracket to do its (reinforcing?) job?

Or do I just live with them?


p.s. loved the suggestion last week on alternator belt squealing (soap bar trick)..

'apply the bat until squeaking stops'

mistype??? or nocturnal flying mammal cruelty ?? :-)

Ho Ho

Mike H973 GHC sebring

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:50:46 +0100
From: Lawrence Holmes <LawH@tah.co.uk>
To: MX5 Send Message <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: WLR to Duxford
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Is anyone arranging a group drive from the WLR to Duxford?  If not,
would anyone like to join me (maybe we could meet up with the Oxford
group on the way).

Lawrence Holmes
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:59:36 +0100 ()
From: "Dr. Andrew S. Thompson" <A.S.Thompson@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>
To: Nick Harrison <nick@anfh.freeserve.co.uk>
cc: John Cookson <johnatg@hotmail.com>, mx5 <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Wind blocker/Rollbar
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Have a look at
http://ftp.wi.net/%7Efizzx/safety/
for Miata crash anecdotes
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:49:01 +0100 Nick Harrison <nick@anfh.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:


> the mx5 has to pass certain crash tests in order to comply with safety
> regulation as do all cars. the roll test would be included in these tests.
> therefore one assumes it has passed them without a roll bar.
> for racing purposes in an open top car, the bar must be 2 inches above your
> head whilst wearing a crash helmet. many race championships also call for a
> full cage to be fitted in an open top car as well.
> the type of bar we sell as a roll bar will obviuosly increase the safety
> aspect if fitted correctly. but never rely on this to save your life, a
> better way is to drive safely since it is not easy to roll an mx5 in the
> first place.
> 
> Nick Harrison
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Cookson <johnatg@hotmail.com>
> To: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:19 PM
> Subject: RE: Wind blocker/Rollbar
> 
> 
> >
> > Original:
> >
> > >From: "Hamish McLean" <hamish@mx-5.freeserve.co.uk>
> >
> > >A lot of truth in these word of wisdom.  Most 'bar' retailers distinguish
> > >between a style bar and a roll bar.
> > >
> > >In event of a rollover the style bar can collapse and cause a lot more
> > >injury that without any bar.  A roll bar should hold firm in a roll over.
> > >However, I am informed that a true roll bar for a '5 would require a lot
> of
> > >cutting and welding.
> > >
> > >Hamish
> >
> >
> > One of the most sensible write-ups I've seen on all this is on Crazy Red
> > Italian's site on miata.net - marketplace on their roll/style bar page.
> > Basically, a proper roll bar will protect you /only/ if you're wearing a
> > helmet and a /tight/ racing multipoint harness. In /any/ other
> > circumstances, the bars are just a lot more metal near your head (and your
> > head gets thrown around in a big crash)
> >
> > Roll crashes involving '5s are rare, and the screen surround provides a
> > reasonable amount of roll protection. Makes sense to me. I was thinking
> > about getting a bar, but I've pretty much changed my mind - unless someone
> > can really pull this argument to bits.
> >
> > John and "Crazy Blue"
> >
> > '89 Classic Red Eunos Roadster
> >
> > "Never take the shortest route"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Dr. Andrew S. Thompson                                       
Research Fellow (Microbiology)                              
QUESTOR Centre, Queens University             
Stranmillis Road, Belfast, BT9 5AG
Northern Ireland, UK
Tel. +44 (0)1232 274218 (direct)/ 335577 (main office)
FAX. +44 (0)1232 661462
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:04:37 +0100
From: Lawrence Holmes <LawH@tah.co.uk>
To: MX5 Send Message <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: RE: Rear towhooks
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I removed the rear tow-hooks (tie-downs whatever) from my Mk1 a few
months ago.  A couple of large bolts and a couple of smaller bolts, I
think I put the smaller bolts back in to hold something in place though
I can't remember what.  Nothing has fallen off yet (nothing that I've
noticed anyway).

Basically, yes you can remove them, once you start un-bolting things, it
all starts to explain itself.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	MIKE BONHAM [SMTP:mike.bonham@sandvik.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:50 AM
> To:	mx5-dist@chaos.org.uk
> Subject:	Rear towhooks
> 
> --- Received from SEA.SUKHMLMB +44 01203 476203             99-06-23
> 10.49 --------------------
> 
> Hi all
> 
> My rear towhooks are annoying me (I long ago ditched the front ones)
> but looking at the bracket
> they're on they seem to not be a simple 'add on' as in the fronts but
> appear to hold the rear
> of the car together in some way.
> 
> Has anyone removed them permanently or do I just  cut the protruding
> hook bits off leaving the
> bracket to do its (reinforcing?) job?
> 
> Or do I just live with them?
> 
> 
> p.s. loved the suggestion last week on alternator belt squealing (soap
> bar trick)..
> 
> 'apply the bat until squeaking stops'
> 
> mistype??? or nocturnal flying mammal cruelty ?? :-)
> 
> Ho Ho
> 
> Mike H973 GHC sebring
> 
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:27:32 +0100
From: "Farrant, Vicky" <VFarrant@aylesburyvaledc.gov.uk>
To: "'mx5@chaos.org.uk'" <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: NMC: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
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Last night whilst cycling home 3 MX-5s went past me with their lids up.  Now
I know that everybody is well within their rights to drive with their lid up
or down, it's their choice.

However, I have come to the conclusion that if your journey is too short to
warrant putting the lid down then should you really be using the car?
Unless it is totally necessary to use the car (whether it be a MX-5 or not)
then shouldn't people walk, get the bus, use the local taxi firms or cycle?

We are a 1-car family and this has come about purely and simply because it
is just not worth me driving into work.  My journey by cycle takes 12
minutes door-to-door.  If I went by car the total journey can take anything
up to 40 minutes!!  Despite this though, there are still people who live in
my area who insist on driving to work, why?

I know the MX-5 is a wonderful little car but does it really do any car any
good stopping and starting, crawling along at 5 miles an hour (if you're
lucky), not to mention the frustration caused to the driver.

I suppose I am fortunate that I have the option, but how many people do also
and don't take it?

You may remember that I am looking for a second MX-5 or Eunos but this is
simply to get me to Silverstone on a Friday night when I can't get a lift
from a friend.  I will still be cycling to work!!

Now that I have got that off my chest I can get on with some work.  Thank
you for reading my waffle.

Regards, Vicky
P999 HOG
1999 1.8i bronze

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Date: 23 Jun 1999 09:11:50 Z
From: "Hickton, Nick" <Nick.J.Hickton@British-Airways.com>
To: mx5 <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Zymol
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Morning all,
A quick question - has anybody out there used the Zymol cleaner and prote=
ctor for soft tops ? =

I remember somebody recommending it and quoting a price of about =A315 I =
think. I tried to order some from Elite but was told I also need to use a=
 conditioner or something to re-seal the hood after using the cleaner/pro=
tector. They only sell it in a kit for about =A350 ! =

Did you use the re-sealer too ? Is it necessary ? Where can I buy the cle=
aner by itself ? Tried Hot n Bovered but only ever get an answering machi=
ne.
TIA
Nick H, L377 HUD, Mariner Blue

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:34:17 GMT
From: Gareth Rosier <gdrosier@hotmail.com>
To: mx5@chaos.org.uk
Subject: Mazda Labour Charges
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Hi,
  Just to add my few pennies worth, I had my 78k service (oil + filter 
change) back in January at 78 plus a changing of brake fluid and coolant, 
which eneded being a shade under 200. I asked how the hell they could 
justify such a price rise for such simple jobs and I beasically explained 
that I would refuse to pay such extortiante charges. The Manager (Tamplins, 
Twickenham) had a bit of a tap on his keyboard and *re-negotiated* the 
labour rates, apparently as a special favour! The final cost came to 145, 
which I thought was a lot more reasonble and the best I was going to get out 
of them. The moral of this little story is that the labour rates are not set 
in stone so try to do a little haggaling!! Anyone else had any similar 
experiences?

Gareth


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:28:38 +0100
From: "Stephen Rigley" <srigley@symantec.com>
To: mx5ireland@egroups.com, mx5@chaos.org.uk
Subject: Stereo
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Hi,
     I've just replaced the stock stereo with a JVC front loading CD unit. Who
was looking for a frequency expander a few weeks ago as I now have one up for
grabs. BTW, the difference in sound quality/clarity is AMAZING when you replace
the stock unit with a unit with built in amplifier !!!
Regards,
Steve

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:52:59 +0100
From: S.J.Dewey@admin.hull.ac.uk (Simon Dewey)
To: mx5@chaos.org.uk
Subject: Whats the point(s)?
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Well on Sunday on the way to the NE OC meet I got
3 penalty points for driving without due care and attention... which
was fair enough....though this is my first driving offence in 12 years...

just had a phone call from my girlfriend 'fran' shes just been done for
speeding...3 penalty points ...she also has been driving for over 10 years
and never had any points...DOH!!!

So if your out and about near york or market rasen etc...be very carefull..
you wont get a warning...there really clamping down... The policemen
told fran that the points stay on your licence for 5 years but for insurance
purposes 3 years... (I was told by my neighbour ...a judge that the reason
it stays on your licence for 5 years..is when the police pull you over and
look at their records...it basically adds weight to their argument should
they wish
to prosecute you.. ie this guy has already got previous driving
convictions...!!!...
it also allows them to say things like...whooo... I see you've been stopped
before!!..
Unfortuntaly this isnt made up!!! ;o(

Ahh well guess me and my girlfriend will at least have a nice drive out to
the police
station.....together!!! ;o)

Cheers
Bonnie & Clyde

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:54:31 +0100
From: "Gavin Sweeten" <gsweeten@netcomuk.co.uk>
To: "MX5 Club" <mx5-d@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Fw: Soapbox - Labour charges at Mazda Garages
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Well, maybe someone can save me a few quid out there.....

I have just booked my 'new' 1994 '5 into a Mazda garage in Twickenham.  T=
hey
say that the Major service charge is about 340 pounds.

I expect to pay London prices for a garage, but is this a fair price?

If not, can anyone suggest a reliable Mazda garage around the
Middlesex/Surrey area?

Gav - Laguna Blue with bolt-on-bits


>I understand that Mazda have different labour charges for different mode=
ls
in
>their range - alledgedly!

>I found that if I owned a Mazda 121 I would be charged labour at =A330 p=
er
hour (+
>VAT) and for an MX-5 labour is charged at =A345 per hour (+ VAT) -
alledgedly.

>I was quoted =A3130 for a 9,000 mile service for an MX-5....
>David Mock - alledgedly!

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:53:57 +0100
From: "Alex McLean" <alex@pumpkin.co.uk>
To: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
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>Unless it is totally necessary to use the car (whether it be a MX-5 or not)
>then shouldn't people walk, get the bus, use the local taxi firms or cycle?

<sigh> Surely this is a place for MX5 talk, not airing environmental
concerns. Sometimes I have my roof down, mostly when it's sunny. Sometimes I
don't - maybe I'm not going far, maybe I am, maybe I simply _can't be arsed_
to do anything with the roof. I choose when to mess about with the roof - it
is after all, my car, that I paid for. On the whole though, if the weather's
relatively fine, then the roof will be down. I certainly never moan about
other people who have their roof up - Christ, let them do what they want -
each to their own? And I'm a keen cyclist by the way - most evenings when I
get back from work - it's just that I _want_ to drive to work - the last
thing I want to do when I get up in the morning is cycle to work, get buses,
taxis or any other form of inadequate method of British public transport,
primarily because I bought a car so I wouldn't have to suffer any of this.
But, that is my choice after all. As is the operation of the latches that
control my roof release.

    Please let's leave the '5 owners alone who have their roofs up - it's up
to them; it's their car! :-) I don't often join them, but I like to think I
could without recieving abuse from others.....

    The car's great - let's just do whatever we like with them, providing
we're having fun and not affecting anyone else....!

All the best,

Alex.

<-----
Alex McLean
Head of Software Engineering
Pumpkin Studios, EIDOS Interactive
www.pumpkin.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:54:04 +0100 ()
From: "Dr. Andrew S. Thompson" <A.S.Thompson@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>
To: Gareth Rosier <gdrosier@hotmail.com>
cc: mx5@chaos.org.uk
Subject: Re: Mazda Labour Charges
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My last service including a brake fluid/coolant change at a Unipart garage =
was=20
=A390......
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:34:17 GMT Gareth Rosier <gdrosier@hotmail.com> wrote=
:


> Hi,
>   Just to add my few pennies worth, I had my 78k service (oil + filter=20
> change) back in January at =A378 plus a changing of brake fluid and coola=
nt,=20
> which eneded being a shade under =A3200. I asked how the hell they could=
=20
> justify such a price rise for such simple jobs and I beasically explained=
=20
> that I would refuse to pay such extortiante charges. The Manager (Tamplin=
s,=20
> Twickenham) had a bit of a tap on his keyboard and *re-negotiated* the=20
> labour rates, apparently as a special favour! The final cost came to =A31=
45,=20
> which I thought was a lot more reasonble and the best I was going to get =
out=20
> of them. The moral of this little story is that the labour rates are not =
set=20
> in stone so try to do a little haggaling!! Anyone else had any similar=20
> experiences?
>=20
> Gareth
>=20
>=20
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>=20

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Dr. Andrew S. Thompson                                      =20
Research Fellow (Microbiology)                             =20
QUESTOR Centre, Queens University            =20
Stranmillis Road, Belfast, BT9 5AG
Northern Ireland, UK
Tel. +44 (0)1232 274218 (direct)/ 335577 (main office)
FAX. +44 (0)1232 661462
Email: (main) a.s.thompson@qub.ac.uk=20
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:58:54 +0100
From: Lawrence Holmes <LawH@tah.co.uk>
To: "Farrant, Vicky" <VFarrant@aylesburyvaledc.gov.uk>, MX5 Send Message
	 <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: RE: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
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I have to admit that I drove home last night with the top up - I had a
stinking headache and couldn't face driving with the top down, getting
buffeted by the wind.

I agree with you that many people who only travel a short distance to
work should be walking or cycling rather than using their cars.
However, I tried cycling to work (about 5 miles of country roads - 5
territory) a couple of times and will never do it again.

Apart from the fact that I arrive at the office dripping with sweat and
with nowhere to have a wash let alone the shower that I need, I was
nearly killed a number of times by inconsiderate motorists - especially
the 4wd mother brigade who drive the biggest 4wd they can afford (or at
least, bigger than their neighbours - the Jones's 4wd) to deliver Timmy
to play-school.

Basically, although I enjoy cycling and although it's only about 5 miles
to work, I'm going to continue driving my car for the sake of my health.
After all, it's a much more practical device for these trips than a Jeep
Grand Cherokee with a single baby seat...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Farrant, Vicky [SMTP:VFarrant@aylesburyvaledc.gov.uk]
> Sent:	Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:28 AM
> To:	mx5-dist@chaos.org.uk
> Subject:	NMC: Using Your MX-5 (soap-box time)
> 
> Last night whilst cycling home 3 MX-5s went past me with their lids
> up.  Now
> I know that everybody is well within their rights to drive with their
> lid up
> or down, it's their choice.
> 
> However, I have come to the conclusion that if your journey is too
> short to
> warrant putting the lid down then should you really be using the car?
> Unless it is totally necessary to use the car (whether it be a MX-5 or
> not)
> then shouldn't people walk, get the bus, use the local taxi firms or
> cycle?
> 
> We are a 1-car family and this has come about purely and simply
> because it
> is just not worth me driving into work.  My journey by cycle takes 12
> minutes door-to-door.  If I went by car the total journey can take
> anything
> up to 40 minutes!!  Despite this though, there are still people who
> live in
> my area who insist on driving to work, why?
> 
> I know the MX-5 is a wonderful little car but does it really do any
> car any
> good stopping and starting, crawling along at 5 miles an hour (if
> you're
> lucky), not to mention the frustration caused to the driver.
> 
> I suppose I am fortunate that I have the option, but how many people
> do also
> and don't take it?
> 
> You may remember that I am looking for a second MX-5 or Eunos but this
> is
> simply to get me to Silverstone on a Friday night when I can't get a
> lift
> from a friend.  I will still be cycling to work!!
> 
> Now that I have got that off my chest I can get on with some work.
> Thank
> you for reading my waffle.
> 
> Regards, Vicky
> P999 HOG
> 1999 1.8i bronze
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:13:26 +0100
From: "Martyn Brearley" <martyn.brearley@camcon.co.uk>
To: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Kicker 6.5 freeair install pics
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At long last, I've put the pictures of my installation up where you can see
them.

Warning, this system is seriously nice. You may find parts of your bank
balance disappearing once you have seen the pictures. Never mind, at least
you'll have a great stereo.

The album doesn't cover the final covering of the drivers, and this is quite
important to the sound of the system. The simple reason is that I haven't
quite finalised this bit and I have a couple of tweaks to do. Rest assured,
more will follow.

Enjoy, I do...

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=43457&a=291406

	Martyn

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:28:29 +0100
From: Tony Collins <ARCollin@devon-cc.gov.uk>
To: "mx5 list (E-mail)" <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Clarion r/cassette
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The 5 (1991) came with a rather old looking Clarion radio which has a
folding handle implying that it pulls out easily. I have tried using
reasonable force but it seems to be well attached. I asked the previous
owner who claimed she'd never tried. Haven't the model no. to hand but
it has a cd input plug on the front if that jogs someones memory.

To add to my free service won in the Olympic draw I got home to find
we'd also won a valeting kit!
Tony Collins

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:25:13 +0100
From: "Jonathan McCormack" <McCormackJ@BelfastCity.Gov.UK>
To: "Dr. Andrew S. Thompson" <A.S.Thompson@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>,
	"Gareth Rosier" <gdrosier@hotmail.com>
Cc: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Mazda Labour Charges
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Last service at Bridge End Motors in Belfast where I bought the car...

New Oil Filter
Changed Oil
Changed Plugs
Checked Brakes & Emissions

50, cash

Jonathan

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:31:37 +0100
From: "Martyn Brearley" <martyn.brearley@camcon.co.uk>
To: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: RE: Speakers
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How's this for info about headrest speakers?

http://www.wenet.net/~jaimev/M-hrspeakers/index.html

	Martyn

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:37:36 +0100
From: "Martyn Brearley" <martyn.brearley@camcon.co.uk>
To: <mx5@chaos.org.uk>
Subject: RE: Speakers
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> How's this for info about headrest speakers?
>
> http://www.wenet.net/~jaimev/M-hrspeakers/index.html
>

Looking at Jaime's Blaupunkts, it looks like slightly shallower drivers
would have been better, either that or cut back a bit into the foam behind
them. I'd say for safety that shallower is best.

 	Martyn

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